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Tay Bridge & Dundee Union Railway, 1864

The first proposals to get as far as Parliamentary plans for a bridge over the Tay.

Background information is in the blog - The Tay Bridge and Dundee Union Railway.

Original proposal (no plans), October 1864:

                  Tay Bridge & Dundee Union Railway.

  At the Dundee end, the bridge was to run to Craig Pier and the line would then turn west.

 

 

Final proposal (with plans), end of November 1864:

                Tay Bridge & Dundee Union Railway.

  At the Dundee end, the line was to turn east and run into the town (shown dotted).

Originally the result of suggestions for a bridge from Tayport across to Hare Craig (at West Ferry), the Tay Bridge & Dundee Union Railway was presented by Thomas Bouch, its engineer, to the Dundee public on 26 October 1864. He proposed a bridge to run from Newport (exact location unknown but from the number of spans, 64, probably Craighead) to Craig Pier (now Discovery Point) where the line would turn west to run to a station. It was envisaged that it would be complemented by a railway on the Fife side from Tayport to Newport, where it would have sufficient height to enable the bridge to cross the river, and another direct line from Newport to Leuchars1. A central station in Dundee was proposed with links to the other railways coming into the town.

There was considerable discussion and argument locally, eventually leading to many changes.

The proposed Bill to go before Parliament was published on 22 November 18642. It was for a railway to run from the station at Ferryport-on-Craig (Tayport) and terminate just west of the Craig Pier.

But the detailed plans3 which had to be submitted to the Sheriff Clerk before the proposals could go to Parliament show the Dundee landfall of the bridge to be just to the east of Magdalen Point (near where the present railway bridge has its landfall). The plans were described in detail in the local press4. They show a line from the station at Tayport running along near the coast to Newport, then round to Woodhaven, from where a bridge, now with 80 spans, would be built directly across the river towards Magdalen Point, but turning eastwards at the north end continuing to a station opposite the foundry of the Scottish Central Railway. These plans were deposited on 30 November - change had been rapid.

Although confusing to many, the plans do not contradict the proposed Parliamentary Bill since the proposed Bill only mentions the end point of the railway (west of Craig Pier) and does not detail its route.

The line was never built - killed off by too many vested interests (Dundee Harbour Trust, Dundee Town Council, Perth Town Council & competing railway companies). Officially postponed in Parliament May 18655. The planned route from Tayport station to Castle Brae in Newport was used for the first planned Newport Railway.

References:
1. Dundee Advertiser, 18 October 1864, p2 & 27 October 1864, p3 (all newspapers available at British Newspaper Archive)
2. Edinburgh Gazette, 22 November 1864, p1559
3. Plans - at National Records of Scotland, ref. RHP24551
4. Dundee Advertiser, 1 December 1864, p2
5. Dundee Advertiser, 11 May 1865, p3

Additional reading:
Battle for the North, Charles McKean, 2007

 

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These are the entries in the Books of Reference which accompany the various railway plans, RHP24551, held at the National Records of Scotland, but not online. The full plans are not on this site.

     There are 247 records.

Co.YearPlanRefDescriptionOwner or reputed ownerOccupier[Comments]Location
TB & DU1864RHP2455150PlantationHenry StewartHenry Stewart
TB & DU1864RHP2455151Ditch, dyke & banks, with line of planting and hedge, being estate boundaryHenry Stewart & John BerryPeter Ramsay & Robert Arthur (lessees); Peter Ramsay, John & Robert Arthur (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455152Arable fieldJohn BerryRobert Arthur (lessee); John & Robert Arthur (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455153Arable fieldJohn BerryThomas & John Just (lessees & occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455154Bank being division between fieldsJohn BerryRobert Arthur, Thomas & John Just (lessees); John & Robert Arthur, Thomas & John Just (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455155Kirk roadJohn BerryThe public
TB & DU1864RHP2455156Dwelling house with outhouses and courts at back and garden ground in frontMary Ann Gibb & Eliza Gibb; John Geekie junior, Andrew Willison & James Petrie (trustees of late Alex. Gibb); John SkinnerMary Ann Gibb & Eliza Gibb
TB & DU1864RHP2455157Dwelling house with outhouses and courts at back and garden ground in frontMary Ann Gibb & Eliza Gibb; John Geekie junior, Andrew Willison & James Petrie (trustees of late Alex. Gibb); John SkinnerAlexander McLaren (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455158Arable field partially cultivated as garden ground & partly used as corn yardJohn Just & Thomas JustJohn Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455159Dwelling house with garden in frontThomas HarrisRobert Kinnear(lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455160Arable or garden groundThomas HarrisRobert Kinnear(lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455161Old quarry or quarry holeJohn Just & Thomas JustJohn Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455162Arable fieldHenry StewartGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455163Bank lined with treesHenry Stewart, John Just & Thomas JustJohn & George Just (lessees & occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455164Occupation roadHenry StewartGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455165Stack yard, farm offices, courts, & approachesGeorge JustGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455166Shrubbery & approachGeorge JustGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455167Bleaching green & garden, with rabbit house at south-east cornerGeorge JustGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455168Garden groundGeorge JustGeorge Just (lessee & occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455169Enclosed garden ground & bleaching green, with privy at south-west cornerRobert Nicoll, Thomas Clark & Barbara Clark or Just, Trustees of late John JustMrs John Just
TB & DU1864RHP2455170Stripe of ground for roadRobert Nicoll, Thomas Clark & Barbara Clark or Just, Trustees of late John Just, George Just, Henry StewartMrs John Just, George Just, Henry Stewart
TB & DU1864RHP2455171Occupation roadMisses Helen, Ann & Elizabeth Whittet, David Just, Henry StewartMisses Helen, Ann & Elizabeth Whittet, David Just, Henry Stewart, Mrs John Just, George Just, Edward Parker
TB & DU1864RHP2455172Occupation roadHenry Stewart, David Just, Misses Helen, Ann & Elizabeth Whittet, James ShepherdHenry Stewart, David Just, Misses Helen, Ann & Elizabeth Whittet, James Shepherd, George Just, Mrs John Just, Edward Parker
TB & DU1864RHP2455173Dwelling house with cellarage and toofall [a lean-to building] at back, and green house at westDavid JustDavid Just
TB & DU1864RHP2455174Enclosed garden ground surrounding no. 73David JustDavid Just
TB & DU1864RHP2455175PrivyDavid JustDavid Just
TB & DU1864RHP2455176Wright's shop and wood yard and poultry yardDavid JustDavid Just
TB & DU1864RHP2455177Dyke with bank and trees, being estate boundaryJohn Berry, Henry StewartRobert Arthur & George Just (lessees); John Berry, Henry Stewart, Robert Arthur, John Arthur, George Just (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455178Small plantationHenry StewartHenry Stewart
TB & DU1864RHP2455179Arable fieldJohn BerryRobert Arthur (lessee); Robert & John Arthur (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455180Arable field lined with treesJohn BerryRobert Arthur (lessee); Robert & John Arthur (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455181Plantation with banks lined with trees and intersected with walksJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455182Garden ground lined with treesJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John Ritchie (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455183Garden ground lined with treesJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John McIntosh (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455184Dwelling house with washing house & outhousesJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John Ritchie (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455185Enclosed garden ground in frontJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John Ritchie (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455186Dwelling house with coal house & outhousesJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John McIntosh (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455187Piece oof waste ground at back of housesJohn BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John McIntosh & John Ritchie (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455188Enclosed garden ground in front of 86John BerryJohn Berry (lessee); John McIntosh (occupier)
TB & DU1864RHP2455189Occupation road through field and plantationJohn BerryJohn Arthur, Robert Arthur, John McIntosh, John Ritchie, John Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455190Burn or stream, partly coveredJohn BerryJohn Arthur, Robert Arthur,Thomas Kidd, John Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455191Plantation and banks of stream intersected with walksJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455192Occupation roadJohn BerryJohn Arthur, Robert Arthur, John Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455193Tayfield Park, studded with trees, and intersected with roads and walksJohn BerryRobert Arthur (lessee); John Arthur, Robert Arthur, John Berry (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455194Small plantationJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455195Plantations intersected by walksJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455196Private approach or access to mansion house of TayfieldJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455197Arable field with treesJohn BerryRobert Arthur (lessee); John Arthur, Robert Arthur (occupiers)
TB & DU1864RHP2455198Plantation or clump of treesJohn BerryJohn Berry
TB & DU1864RHP2455199Covered well or fountainJohn BerryJohn Berry, Robert Arthur, John Arthur

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