Comments on Individual Properties
These are my comments which are included on some properties in the 'Commentary' section of a Property Page. They contain a few comments which could otherwise only be found on the individual property page itself. They are not listed in any order. Click on the 'Location' link to go to the full property page.
There are 278 records.
| Located on the Motray Water with a long mill lade. On St Fort land. Subject to legal dispute with Cruivie Estate in the 1790s after the mill lade (which ran through Cruivie ground) was compromised in 1792 and the water supply to the mill was much reduced. The water was completely cut off in late 1796. The legal case dragged on for years. [Petition of Robert Stewart 1798, Eighteenth Century Collections Online, National Library of Scotland] | Hay's Mill (Old Places) | Location |
| On the west side of the old track up to Inverdovat, more or less where Twinkletree Cottage was. | White Mire (Old Places) | Location |
| Sometimes called Ford Cotton, sometimes Forefield. | Ford Cotton (Forefield) (Old Places) | Location |
| On both sides of the road, just north of the site of Forgan School, and the field across the road. | Ford Cotton (Forefield) (Old Places) | Location |
| Assumed Sunny Braes is the same place as Suneside on Newton estate. | Sunny Braes (Old Places) | Location |
| Position uncertain. A significant area of land, smaller than Woodhaven, and eventually included with Woodhaven. Part of, or another name for, Flasshill. Had fishings in the river - always referenced in the order Woodhaven, Harlowshiels, Broadhaugh - thus possibly east of Woodhaven. Not shown on any available maps. | Harlowshiels (Old Places) | Location |
| A wonderful mixture of spellings: Mount / Mont / .. minny / mini / mirri / minna / merry / murry / … gog / gogue | Mountmerrygog (Old Places) | Location |
| Part of land of Inverdovat. | Laverock Law (Old Places) | Location |
| Twelve acres of Laverock Law mentioned in the Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, 1451. | Laverock Law (Old Places) | Location |
| The entries in local taxation returns listed here are tentative, whether the entries are for this property or the inn at St Davids - I am still not certain, in particular, about John Hay. The speculation also applies to 'Andrew Rodger at the Braehead'. | Newport House, High Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 3 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 3 Gowrie Street | Location |
| The Waterside was the general name for the cottages strung along the coast from Newport (East Water) to Woodhaven (West Water). 'East' and 'West' stop being used as names in the early 1770s. 'Betwixt the Waters' and 'Midwaterside' are commonly used from the 1790s for the general areas of Broadhaugh and Woodend (along West Road). | the Waterside (East Water) (Old Places) | Location |
| The Waterside was the general name for the cottages strung along the coast from Newport (East Water) to Woodhaven (West Water). 'East' and 'West' stop being used as names in the early 1770s. 'Betwixt the Waters' and 'Midwaterside' are commonly used from the 1790s for the general areas of Broadhaugh and Woodend (along West Road). | the Waterside (West Water) (Old Places) | Location |
| The Waterside was the general name for the cottages strung along the coast from Newport (East Water) to Woodhaven (West Water). 'East' and 'West' stop being used as names in the early 1770s. 'Betwixt the Waters' and 'Midwaterside' are commonly used from the 1790s for the general areas of Broadhaugh and Woodend (along West Road). | the Waterside (Midwaterside) (Old Places) | Location |
| Newport Amateur Rowing Club - A club-house has been got on liberal terms at Newport, from the manager of the Tay Ferries. Dundee Courier, 3 Jun 1871 | Boatshed, Boat Brae | Location |
| Rapid progress is being made with the restoration and improvement of the buildings on the west side of the pier, which are being converted from a low shed to a handsome range of shops. Dundee Evening Telegraph, 14 Sep 1878, p3 Improvements at Newport Pier ... conversion of old boatshed and other low buildings into a range of 7 handsome shops. ... thought it would be necessary to take off the roofs and add to the height of the walls - on examination it was found the requisite height might be attained without that expense. The work has been done ... a range of architectural buildings which will compare favourably with any in the locality.... [extensive details of the buildings] ... understood a pavement is to be laid down in front of them ... all shops except one have already been let ... Dundee Advertiser 29 Apr 1879, p11 | Boatshed, Boat Brae | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 5 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 5 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 7 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 7 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 9 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 9 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 11 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 11 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 13 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 13 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 15 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 15 Gowrie Street | Location |
| See the blog Shipbuilding at Woodhaven. | Wright's yard, Woodhaven Pier | Location |
| HMS Vulcan and the 7th Submarine Flotilla were based at Dundee from November 1908 to July 1914. They had moorings off Newport. The positon of the moorings changed - the positions given here are for 1911 - in later years the submarines were moved further east and Vulcan was moved further north into deeper water. HMS Vulcan, HMS Hebe and HMS Alecto were the support vessels. Because the moorings were within Forgan parish, on census night 1911 the vessels in the river on that date were included in the Forgan statistics; the other vessels were in Dundee docks. Much more information about the flotilla is in the 2 other sites linked below. | HMS Vulcan | Location |
| To find the crews in the 1911 census on ScotlandsPeople, because there is no index of the ships' names, search in Shipping, Royal Navy : for HMS Vulcan - ref 902/S/13/, search for Allan Poland; for HMS Hebe - 902/S/12, search for Hugh Eastwood; for C21 - 902/S/11, search for Alfred Jackson; for C22 - 902/S/10, search for Arthur Dunn; for C24 - 902/S/9, search for John Lewis; for C25 - 902/S/8, search for Albert Marshall; for C26 - 902/S/7, search for Edward Burnett. | HMS Vulcan | Location |
| HMS Vulcan and the 7th Submarine Flotilla were based at Dundee from November 1908 to July 1914. They had moorings off Newport. The positon of the moorings changed - the positions given here are for 1911 - in later years the submarines were moved further east and Vulcan was moved further north into deeper water. HMS Vulcan, HMS Hebe and HMS Alecto were the support vessels. Because the moorings were within Forgan parish, on census night 1911 the vessels in the river on that date were included in the Forgan statistics; the other vessels were in Dundee docks. Much more information about the flotilla is in the 2 other sites linked below. | Submarines & HMS Hebe | Location |
| To find the crews in the 1911 census on ScotlandsPeople, because there is no index of the ships' names, search in Shipping, Royal Navy : for HMS Vulcan - ref 902/S/13/, search for Allan Poland; for HMS Hebe - 902/S/12, search for Hugh Eastwood; for C21 - 902/S/11, search for Alfred Jackson; for C22 - 902/S/10, search for Arthur Dunn; for C24 - 902/S/9, search for John Lewis; for C25 - 902/S/8, search for Albert Marshall; for C26 - 902/S/7, search for Edward Burnett. | Submarines & HMS Hebe | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 17 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 17 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Henry P Robbie was the son of John Robbie who lived at the Castle. He went on to become manager of Valentine's of Dundee: photographers, printers & publishers. | Photo studio, West Road | Location |
| Martin Anderson was 'Cynicus'. | Photo studio, West Road | Location |
| In June 1921 there was an army presence of 24 men in Wormit, the Wormit Station Guard. This was probably because of the industrial unrest at the time. It is not known where the military quarters were, only that they were within the boundaries of burgh ward 3. Certainly this site in Crosshill Terrace was available at the time, although the previous buildings had been removed after the first world war. In the 1921 census, the army is listed almost at the end of the entries for Wormit, among entries for Hillpark Terrace. A location on higher ground overlooking the station would be a possibility. So at present, the location of the 1921 quarters is unknown. | Military Quarters, Crosshill Terrace | Location |
| See the blog Seacraig. | former quarry & stables, Union Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 19 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 19 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 21 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 21 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 23 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 23 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Replaced by a later toll house on the other side of the road. | old tollhouse, Cupar Road | Location |
| Baker's premises on the site from about 1846. Shop at no. 1 Gowrie St is listed instead from 1878. 1867-1871: 1-13 Queen St and 25-27 Gowrie St built. 1879-1880: 2 King St, 3-11 and 17-19 Gowrie St added. 1881: 13, 15, 21, 23 Gowrie St added. The development of the whole block is told in the blog James' Square. | 25 Gowrie Street | Location |
| James' Square entries are correct back as far as 1885, except that 1, 3, & 5 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated; 5 & 7 Gowrie Street may be wrongly allocated; and 9 & 11 Queen Street may be wrongly allocated. Before that, in 1881 there is much confusion as to which property is which. But from 1878 back, allocations are probably correct. | 25 Gowrie Street | Location |
| Map shows a small circle - so it may be a well. The 'biggings of Caldwell' mentioned in Dundee Guildry Minutes 1713. | Caldwell, Granary Lane | Location |
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